OK, fixed. If you are willing to read just the long one (w 1/ at bottom), they are a true accounting of my own observations/experiences, not anyone else's. I have maybe 150 screenshots of interference that I suspect are crimes. Thanks for your attention.
Why? Because there has been a 60+yr effort, started by Khrushchev, to take over all forms of communication (and to gut education). At this stage, I watch from my desk as my device 'Location' regularly changes as my internet activity is steered by invisible VPNs through one of 5 russian DisInformation Troll Farms in my county (or at least 1 chinese one) on the way to my ISP. When they are being sloppy, the first line in my Search Results will be "Would you like to translate this page into Russian?"; or 3/4 of the results will be in Chinese. When I search for, say, a climate change conference I heard about, I'll get unlimited pages (I quit screenshotting at 6 or so) of Far Rt results and fake news sites (APNe.ws instead of APNews.com, etc.) and not a single normal result: no mention of the conference, just "climate change is a hoax", etc..
HOWEVER, If I put an anonymous computer next to mine and type *exactly* the same Search, I will get a link to register, various wiki pages, the pages of the sponsors..., all normal results, with a scattering of Far Rt. Somehow, as soon as we log in to ... anything?... we are shunted through the Far Rt media-control booth. I think the same is happening with Cable - Whenever anti-russian/Far Rt reports are on MSNBC, it suddenly buffers until the next commercial. If I look on YouTube to find the Segment, there will be a QAnon Ad or a child coloring for 5 minutes (though sometimes there is a transcript).
The majority of people, especially the less-well-off, the less educated, those who depend upon free or cheap news, are only getting Far Rt results. My friends know nothing of Jan6 Committee, Trump's convictions, SCOTUS rulings, or anything else that they should know, given how persistently they try to read the news. And they spout all the russian propaganda and think I am the one watching propaganda.
Persistent, educated people are clumped together in silos, so we think we are informing each other, but look at how tiny our engagement it. We're just singing to the choir. I remember when I good story would get 100k or 1M views, now we get 100 or 1k. 1/
I can't speak to some of what you are saying/asserting here because I just don't have the facts at my disposal to make the assessment. That said there is no doubt that some sites people use (Twitter) are run by people who put their thumbs on the scale and others (the rt wing media ecosystem) suck people in and distort their views of the world. Unfortunately, we are likely to be able to change neither before the election and right now that means we should focus on persuading those we can reach of the importance of stopping Trump and MAGA or we shall have much bigger problems in a First Amendment free future.
Yes, I do understand. This is not just major sites nor is it algorithms. This is anything that goes through a search engine or scroll. I've written 9 election Letters, now, to various law enforcement, investigative journalists and legislators/lawyers, some as long as 20 pages of evidence, with 100+ attached files. Most of it seems to disappear. I have set sometimes-successful traps to try to discover how/why. One possible success: right after I sent one to the WH warning of trump saboteurs still employed there, *20* trump people were let go, no notice.
It all started with an OK university who was granted access to all the state's votes from '08, '10 and '12 elections. In ES&S voting machines, they found vote flipping in all the important races, but not across the board. They published an impressive Report in 2014; the engineer in me agreed with their math and charts. When I tried to share it on FB, I was hacked and cut off from all my contacts. I eventually called people - No, they could not see any posts about elections. By then the Report had disappeared online.
So these reach-outs that I am doing now are more a form of warning, my last-ditch efforts since capturing my first evidence in 2014. To beg people to ensure that your materials are reaching people you want to see them - so we CAN stop T and Proj2025.
I also still think it is worth trying to find uncorrupted FBI who could take my collected evidence and use it to try and shut down some of this. Why? Because AFTER the election, this FarRt eco-system could shut down EVERYTHING except what they put out there, putting people like us in even tighter silos, and could lie their way to an overthrow of the election. So I'm not pointing out something small, and I'm not talking about reaching MAGA people. I'm talking about my Blue town/neighbors who are flipping towards trump in alarming numbers - just today, it is my next door neighbor, literally. 1/
I could send you data, or to someone you know, or to someone who knows someone. What I have identified is the ROOT of the problem. But I accept, if this is not something you wish to engage in. Perhaps just raise your awareness to look for signs of what I've described, or similar...? Maybe keep a copy of the details for future reference. Thanks for listening.
NO Matter how much WE are introspective, what if we can't reach the rest of the citizenry?
I say we break THIS, we have a chance. Remember the Washington Post study that got true information in front of a few hundred ex-Dems who had turned Red: some *60%* changed back once they could finally access ALL of the info.
My father, then bureau chief of the London Daily Telegraph, published a book in 1970 entitled America in Retreat. America, he wrote, was "a country divided against itself, full of doubts and fear and looking inwards. The tide may well be turning away from acceptance of the policy recommendations of an educated élite -- and against the élite. The day of the simplistic know-nothing yahoo may be dawning". Plus ça change and all that. The American electorate, as Madison and co well understood, has always had its share of simplistic yahoos, as have all electorates. What's new is that the yahoos have been empowered to give one of their own a real shot at the White House. How did that happen? Too much democracy at the nominating phase. Same thing happened in the UK. The Conservatives opened the choice of leader to the rank-and-file and the rank-and-file gave them Boris Johnson. In 2016, no serious Republican wanted Trump to be the nominee, but the party having surrendered its choice to the mob -- the GOP id -- that's what it got, good and hard, as Mencken would say. Earlier versions of Trump -- Wallace, Buchanan, Perot -- were un-nominatable. What has broken down is the filtration system that parties provided.
Great piece! No doubt many disaffected people have attached to this “cult”, and some people are just lazy haters, who need a target. But isn’t the real question, not what this malignant movement is, but why? And why are otherwise, seemingly normal people tolerating the lies, ugliness and violence?
It is very complicated, but we ignore it at our peril.
Provocative article. You may be over analyzing the problem. Interestingly, none of his designees or acolytes seems to have a fraction of his drawing power. I think we are looking at a personality cult unique to Trump. When he is finally seen off by defeat or otherwise, things may well equalize.
IN the past that usually happened. But, now we have Project 2025, and most Republican counties did NOT replace their ES&S Voting Machines that COULD be hacked (thx to Karl Rove). They have only been tweaking local races to solidify Red State legislatures, in order to not get caught. But this race...? I say RECOUNT EVERY RACE, EVERY PRECINCT this year. Without exception. Even it T has a stroke and they put someone like Flynn in...
I'm willing to believe that there's an "American national character," and that there's a "deep flaw" in it. I believe that it's complicated because I believe every goddamn thing is complicated, but I also believe that some of the answers are out there in plain sight. The big one is that many straight white men (and the women who love, or at least marry, them) believed that no matter how difficult their lives were, they were on top of the heap, and just like the non-slave-owning white southerners of the Civil War era they identified with those who really were on top of the heap. The 1960s and what followed blew that apart. It turned out that if you fought like hell to be included in the body politic, you could actually achieve some degree of (apparent) inclusion. Many of those white guys hadn't figured this out, and as a result they hated the people of color and the women who had managed to get a toehold than they did the white guys at the top. Trump speaks to these frustrated, angry people even though he doesn't have much of substance to offer them.
Versus those educated after Reagan (as advised by Roger Stone - who was also with NIXON) started gutting liberal education. They took out CIVICS first, then gym, art, music, creative writing, sex-ed is also disappearing, no wonder they thought once we (in the 60s) had achieved Civil Rights and Voting Rights, Roe, Clean Air and Water Acts, EPA, etc., that they thought it was all accomplished, nothing else to do, that it would all take care of itself... into eternity...
Khrushchev's "I will destroy you from the inside" agents were able to join (and continue to hold) together all the smaller disaffected groups, mostly of white males, into the "neo-conservative" monster we see now. Now it has little to do with Tr*mp, other than he has kissed Putin's ring each time he failed, and they see how talented he is at stirring up the weak and wounded and angry. If he becomes a liability they will likely assassinate him and blame the left. However, the Heritage-based Project 2025 group is here to stay, T or no T.
OK, fixed. If you are willing to read just the long one (w 1/ at bottom), they are a true accounting of my own observations/experiences, not anyone else's. I have maybe 150 screenshots of interference that I suspect are crimes. Thanks for your attention.
Curious, David - Are you able to see seven (7) replies/Comments here?? (counting this one)
Did you get the FIRST part of my long reply directly to you? Second paragraph begins: "HOWEVER, If I put an anonymous computer..."
The only reply you acknowledged is only one the does Not name any member/
history of the .-^C.-^O.-^U.-^P.-^ My theory being, they are using tools for hiding anything they don't want read.
I can see this one.
Ok, I will go through the others (they still show to me, and replace all the "trigger words", I call them, reSave and let's see what you can see...?
No. I looked. I can see it all. No need to do that.
Ah, thx, I will undo. Oddly, I only received notice of your first reply; hence the 'make-overs'. Thanks for looking and verifying.
Why? Because there has been a 60+yr effort, started by Khrushchev, to take over all forms of communication (and to gut education). At this stage, I watch from my desk as my device 'Location' regularly changes as my internet activity is steered by invisible VPNs through one of 5 russian DisInformation Troll Farms in my county (or at least 1 chinese one) on the way to my ISP. When they are being sloppy, the first line in my Search Results will be "Would you like to translate this page into Russian?"; or 3/4 of the results will be in Chinese. When I search for, say, a climate change conference I heard about, I'll get unlimited pages (I quit screenshotting at 6 or so) of Far Rt results and fake news sites (APNe.ws instead of APNews.com, etc.) and not a single normal result: no mention of the conference, just "climate change is a hoax", etc..
HOWEVER, If I put an anonymous computer next to mine and type *exactly* the same Search, I will get a link to register, various wiki pages, the pages of the sponsors..., all normal results, with a scattering of Far Rt. Somehow, as soon as we log in to ... anything?... we are shunted through the Far Rt media-control booth. I think the same is happening with Cable - Whenever anti-russian/Far Rt reports are on MSNBC, it suddenly buffers until the next commercial. If I look on YouTube to find the Segment, there will be a QAnon Ad or a child coloring for 5 minutes (though sometimes there is a transcript).
The majority of people, especially the less-well-off, the less educated, those who depend upon free or cheap news, are only getting Far Rt results. My friends know nothing of Jan6 Committee, Trump's convictions, SCOTUS rulings, or anything else that they should know, given how persistently they try to read the news. And they spout all the russian propaganda and think I am the one watching propaganda.
Persistent, educated people are clumped together in silos, so we think we are informing each other, but look at how tiny our engagement it. We're just singing to the choir. I remember when I good story would get 100k or 1M views, now we get 100 or 1k. 1/
I can't speak to some of what you are saying/asserting here because I just don't have the facts at my disposal to make the assessment. That said there is no doubt that some sites people use (Twitter) are run by people who put their thumbs on the scale and others (the rt wing media ecosystem) suck people in and distort their views of the world. Unfortunately, we are likely to be able to change neither before the election and right now that means we should focus on persuading those we can reach of the importance of stopping Trump and MAGA or we shall have much bigger problems in a First Amendment free future.
Yes, I do understand. This is not just major sites nor is it algorithms. This is anything that goes through a search engine or scroll. I've written 9 election Letters, now, to various law enforcement, investigative journalists and legislators/lawyers, some as long as 20 pages of evidence, with 100+ attached files. Most of it seems to disappear. I have set sometimes-successful traps to try to discover how/why. One possible success: right after I sent one to the WH warning of trump saboteurs still employed there, *20* trump people were let go, no notice.
It all started with an OK university who was granted access to all the state's votes from '08, '10 and '12 elections. In ES&S voting machines, they found vote flipping in all the important races, but not across the board. They published an impressive Report in 2014; the engineer in me agreed with their math and charts. When I tried to share it on FB, I was hacked and cut off from all my contacts. I eventually called people - No, they could not see any posts about elections. By then the Report had disappeared online.
So these reach-outs that I am doing now are more a form of warning, my last-ditch efforts since capturing my first evidence in 2014. To beg people to ensure that your materials are reaching people you want to see them - so we CAN stop T and Proj2025.
I also still think it is worth trying to find uncorrupted FBI who could take my collected evidence and use it to try and shut down some of this. Why? Because AFTER the election, this FarRt eco-system could shut down EVERYTHING except what they put out there, putting people like us in even tighter silos, and could lie their way to an overthrow of the election. So I'm not pointing out something small, and I'm not talking about reaching MAGA people. I'm talking about my Blue town/neighbors who are flipping towards trump in alarming numbers - just today, it is my next door neighbor, literally. 1/
2/
I could send you data, or to someone you know, or to someone who knows someone. What I have identified is the ROOT of the problem. But I accept, if this is not something you wish to engage in. Perhaps just raise your awareness to look for signs of what I've described, or similar...? Maybe keep a copy of the details for future reference. Thanks for listening.
It’s not something I have time to delve into as you have. But I will pass it along to folks when I have the opportunity. Thank you again.
2/
NO Matter how much WE are introspective, what if we can't reach the rest of the citizenry?
I say we break THIS, we have a chance. Remember the Washington Post study that got true information in front of a few hundred ex-Dems who had turned Red: some *60%* changed back once they could finally access ALL of the info.
Can you help with this??
My father, then bureau chief of the London Daily Telegraph, published a book in 1970 entitled America in Retreat. America, he wrote, was "a country divided against itself, full of doubts and fear and looking inwards. The tide may well be turning away from acceptance of the policy recommendations of an educated élite -- and against the élite. The day of the simplistic know-nothing yahoo may be dawning". Plus ça change and all that. The American electorate, as Madison and co well understood, has always had its share of simplistic yahoos, as have all electorates. What's new is that the yahoos have been empowered to give one of their own a real shot at the White House. How did that happen? Too much democracy at the nominating phase. Same thing happened in the UK. The Conservatives opened the choice of leader to the rank-and-file and the rank-and-file gave them Boris Johnson. In 2016, no serious Republican wanted Trump to be the nominee, but the party having surrendered its choice to the mob -- the GOP id -- that's what it got, good and hard, as Mencken would say. Earlier versions of Trump -- Wallace, Buchanan, Perot -- were un-nominatable. What has broken down is the filtration system that parties provided.
And 2 other things:
The education system that had reduced the numbers of 'no-nothings' was broken by Roger Stone via Reagan, AND
The Russian/Far Rt hackers have taken over the internet, and top ownership of legacy media.
Great piece! No doubt many disaffected people have attached to this “cult”, and some people are just lazy haters, who need a target. But isn’t the real question, not what this malignant movement is, but why? And why are otherwise, seemingly normal people tolerating the lies, ugliness and violence?
It is very complicated, but we ignore it at our peril.
Thank you.
Or as Hillary put it short and sweet: basket of deplorables
The answer might be simply that propaganda and what our circle thinks works better than we would like to admit and there’s plenty of it all around us.
Provocative article. You may be over analyzing the problem. Interestingly, none of his designees or acolytes seems to have a fraction of his drawing power. I think we are looking at a personality cult unique to Trump. When he is finally seen off by defeat or otherwise, things may well equalize.
IN the past that usually happened. But, now we have Project 2025, and most Republican counties did NOT replace their ES&S Voting Machines that COULD be hacked (thx to Karl Rove). They have only been tweaking local races to solidify Red State legislatures, in order to not get caught. But this race...? I say RECOUNT EVERY RACE, EVERY PRECINCT this year. Without exception. Even it T has a stroke and they put someone like Flynn in...
I'm willing to believe that there's an "American national character," and that there's a "deep flaw" in it. I believe that it's complicated because I believe every goddamn thing is complicated, but I also believe that some of the answers are out there in plain sight. The big one is that many straight white men (and the women who love, or at least marry, them) believed that no matter how difficult their lives were, they were on top of the heap, and just like the non-slave-owning white southerners of the Civil War era they identified with those who really were on top of the heap. The 1960s and what followed blew that apart. It turned out that if you fought like hell to be included in the body politic, you could actually achieve some degree of (apparent) inclusion. Many of those white guys hadn't figured this out, and as a result they hated the people of color and the women who had managed to get a toehold than they did the white guys at the top. Trump speaks to these frustrated, angry people even though he doesn't have much of substance to offer them.
Yes.
Can you tell I came of political age in the late '60s? <g>
Versus those educated after Reagan (as advised by Roger Stone - who was also with NIXON) started gutting liberal education. They took out CIVICS first, then gym, art, music, creative writing, sex-ed is also disappearing, no wonder they thought once we (in the 60s) had achieved Civil Rights and Voting Rights, Roe, Clean Air and Water Acts, EPA, etc., that they thought it was all accomplished, nothing else to do, that it would all take care of itself... into eternity...
Re: Your earlier query. I do see all the comments in this series. Thank you for sharing them.
100%. When I want to freak myself out, I remind myself that to have been of voting age when Reagan was elected you have to be at least 60YO.
Khrushchev's "I will destroy you from the inside" agents were able to join (and continue to hold) together all the smaller disaffected groups, mostly of white males, into the "neo-conservative" monster we see now. Now it has little to do with Tr*mp, other than he has kissed Putin's ring each time he failed, and they see how talented he is at stirring up the weak and wounded and angry. If he becomes a liability they will likely assassinate him and blame the left. However, the Heritage-based Project 2025 group is here to stay, T or no T.